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A way to add number of adults/children in the rental agreement? 4 replies

BlueMtnCabins
May 15, 2017 9:29 AM
Joined Jun, 2016 1155 posts

Thanks Michelle for a prompt reply. Where/how do i edit form header to warn renter to populate number of people vorrectly? Thanks!

A way to add number of adults/children in the rental agreement? 4 replies

Michelle J
May 15, 2017 9:26 AM
OR Team Member Joined Jan, 2011 582 posts

Hi BlueMtnCabins,

Good morning! Couple thoughts on this...

The renter agreement fields are actually based on the BOOKING field codes (or adult/child or whatever else) and not the quote or inquiry.

After a booking is created, the legal agreement is stamped with the field values that are current for the booking at the time the legal agreement is made.

If you were to send the guest another copy of the legal agreement to signed later on (even if they already signed on), it would attempt to render the agreement body with the current field values. So you could update the booking and re-send the legal agreement link for them to sign again.

Does that make sense, or confused?? :-)

Now in terms of the quote acceptance workflow... Yes, whatever adult/child value is set on the quote at the time the guest goes to book, that will pass along to the booking and the legal agreement will show that. So if the quote adult/child counts are wrong, the initial legal agreement will show the wrong ones. But it's on the guest to see that and know they are committing to (and signing) a legal agreement that show a certain number of guests. If they're lying about the numbers, or made a mistake, they should see that. You could always highlight this at the top of the renter agreement so they see in bold the numbers they are committing to.

You could also include header information on the pages BEFORE they get to the legal agreement telling them to make sure they are correct and contact you to change the quote (or go back to the Book Now widget and use right numbers) before getting to the legal agreement. If you edit the form headers, you can embed booking field codes there.

A way to add number of adults/children in the rental agreement? 4 replies

BlueMtnCabins
May 15, 2017 7:59 AM
Joined Jun, 2016 1155 posts

It would be great if I could use OR renter agreement, but i noticed that the only option to fill in the number of adults and children is to have it default to what is on the initial inquiry - which is often incorrect(traveler may select default 2 people or omit children on various sites).
Is there a way to add fields to renter agreement so that renter is forced to enter/update them before hitting "accept"?
Otherwise I have to continue to use signnow for renter agreements where I can have them initial every page and fill in adults and kids.

Importing reservations 1 reply

Chris Hynes
May 10, 2017 7:57 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

Nope, that's it. VRBO is really stingy with the info in their calendar feed :-/ AirBnb at least gives email and phone, TripAdvisor gives guest count. VRBO only gives name and dates.

We're working a couple of other possibilities to get more info, maybe parsing their emails etc.. but that's what we have for now.

They don't tell us when things change, so we have to check in 5 or 10 times a day to see if anything is changed. It may be a little bit but shouldn't be days at a time to wait.

If you just got a booking and want to bring it in now, go into the calendar import -- there's a "Sync Now" button you can whack at any time to make it do an immediate import.

Importing reservations 1 reply

Trident P
May 10, 2017 7:30 PM
Joined Feb, 2017 15 posts

I want to make sure I am not missing something. When my reservations import from VRBO all it has is the dates and name. No other information. Is this correct or should cell phone and email be transferring too. Also, they do not come in unless they are overnight. So I am assuming that is because it is taking a LONG time...certainly more than a couple of hours.

Marcy

Custom Field Definition 2 replies

Daniel
May 8, 2017 10:38 AM
Joined Jul, 2016 18 posts

Awesome! Thank you, Chris!

Custom Field Definition 2 replies

Chris Hynes
May 8, 2017 2:35 AM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

That informational text is only shown in the preview -- to make sure you don't wonder why it was blank. Good point that we should clarify that so you don't wonder what the real email will look like.

When an email is sent, any fields with missing values aren't rendered at all. You can test for yourself by going to a booking for that property with no PXHOTTUBCODE, using the "Email this Guest" button and switching to that booking template:

Custom Field Definition 2 replies

Daniel
May 8, 2017 1:27 AM
Joined Jul, 2016 18 posts

It seems like that when a value in a custom field is not defined, the system automatically displays "[Custom field PXHOTTUBCODE is empty for this property].

I have some properties where hot tub code is required and some properties where guests don't need a code. I would like to use one welcome email for all properties, but when the error message "[Custom field PXHOTTUBCODE is empty for this property]" is printed in the welcome email, it's not really helpful information to the guest and it signals that something is wrong.

Is there a way to turn the "error" message off and simply leave it blank when there is no value? So in the case that the field value is not defined - they don't need the code - it would not print anything in the welcome email.

Thank you.

Daniel

General Lock code - reports 1 reply

Chris Hynes
May 7, 2017 10:49 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

Great idea! I'll note it down and see if we can get a report in for that.

In the meantime, you can see the custom fields on the Stay Reports. If you pull a date range report for the next year, you can scan down the custom fields column and see which ones have fields set. Hopefully that'll help a bit.

General Lock code - reports 1 reply

Glenn Moore
May 6, 2017 11:46 PM
Joined Nov, 2012 79 posts

Hi, I have a two properties each with lock codes I can set remotely (using Vera and Zwave). Unfortunately it is not one of the e-rental locks that was just added as an integration point. I import bookings from Airbnb and VRBO and that is pretty easy. I have set up a custom field for the lock code so that triggered emails can use it.

However each time I import new bookings, I have to go and click each one to see which ones are new (ie. the custom field for my lock code is blank). There there a report I can show that will show each booking and allow me to select custom fields to add to it? That would save a lot of time for me. I can then import new bookings and run a report to see which ones have a blank lock code and then update those ones.

Glenn

Descriptions 1 reply

Chris Hynes
May 2, 2017 1:53 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

Can you give me a bit more detail about where you're seeing that issue? You should be able to copy/paste anywhere. We don't have buttons for that because browser security limitations don't allow us, but you can copy/paste by Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V using the keyboard, right clicking and using the menu, or tapping and holding if you're on mobile.

Do any of those methods work for you?

Descriptions 1 reply

Peter Brimhall
May 2, 2017 1:40 PM
Joined Mar, 2017 20 posts

Why am I not able to copy and paste descriptions for properties?

holiday 3 night minimum? 3 replies

Chris Hynes
May 1, 2017 1:39 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

If you create a specific dates season for those dates, you'll be able to set the allowed/required days and min length of stay for that Memorial Day holiday. Then you can set the same rates or different rates.

Security deposit - how to? 7 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Apr 29, 2017 3:19 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1155 posts

Thank you Michelle, excellent write up. The reason I am exploring this is I am looking for ways to make my quotes more appealing to travelers(without increasing my risks) so Trying to weigh my options.
I do like my current set up in terms of having money in my bank - that keeps renter behaving because they know I have their money (and not just credit card auth).

Security deposit - how to? 7 replies

Michelle J
Apr 28, 2017 5:16 PM
OR Team Member Joined Jan, 2011 582 posts

Hi again BlueMtnCabins,

You're right - we're completely empty on articles about security deposits. We're adding bunches all the time, but still haven't covered that area!

Okay, instead of writing out a book by hand, I found scads of support tickets I could steal from. Here are some relevant paragraphs...

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Our security deposit follows the hotel model of putting a "hold" on the guest's credit card for whatever you specify. This is done automatically by our system following the rules and settings you put in place on the property. Typically, the hold is done 1 or 2 days before arrival.

Our system fully manages this process. You get emails when it happens, whether successfully or unsuccessfully, and the guest does too. If the hold fails, the guest is notified just like when a payment fails and given a link where they can submit a new card. The vast majority of the time, the guest uses the link, within a few hours of getting the email, and everything is fine.

After departure, our system emails you (once per day, every day) until you release the security deposit hold. It's a very fast process that typically is just one click. There is also email templates that can be sent at that point, telling the guest their security deposit was released.

If you need to collect against the security deposit, that is also easy and part of the same process. Here's a quick pic showing what it looks like:
The money that is collected flows through your same bank account just like your payments and refunds. Our Payments Detail report show this revenue just like the other items.

It's important to understand that the hold we put on the card cannot be blocked or removed by the cardholder. The way a "hold" works with interchange (Visa/MC/Discover) is that it's like any other regular charge, only it's "pending" until you collect something against it. The cardholder cannot call the bank and ask that the pending charge be removed. No bank will do it based on interchange policy. Even if the cardholder was to cancel their credit card account entirely (or the card was stolen), they would still be liable for whatever was collected against the hold.

The way it work is that the "hold" is an authorization from the bank just like any other regular charge. The difference is that with a regular charge, the authorization is followed up a request to finalize or "capture" the authorization. In this case, there is no followup "capture" and the authorization stays in place until either we void it or collect on it, or its been too long and the bank expires it on their own.

This is the standard way hotels and other businesses deal with damage across the travel industry, and its what interchange recommends for best practices. The VRBO style is not recommended and can be disputed by the cardholder.

The other thing to understand is that, if you collect the full security deposit up front as a payment and then refund it after, your credit card processor will most likely not refund you the fees from the credit card charge when you refund it after. Some (like Paypal and Stripe) will refund fees. Most do not. So you may very well pay a credit card fee for the deposit each and every time. With the "hold" style, there is no fee until you actually capture a charge (which rarely happens).

All that being said, we are scheduling some new development which will fully support the VRBO style of security deposit. We're planning on differentiating it as "security deposit" versus "security hold" and allowing both to work on bookings. The "security deposit" will take a real payment which you'll refund after. The "hold" will follow what we do now. While we continue to recommend the hold style, we have a lot of users ask about the other method because VRBO has done that and they want to follow what VBRO does, so that's in the works.

Security deposit - how to? 7 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Apr 28, 2017 2:22 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1155 posts

This may be a silly question, but how do they work? I could not find comprehensive article.
Currently the way I have it set up is I collect rent + damage deposit. Once the renter check out, I issue a refund for deposit (provided no damages).
So if my rent is $1000, and booking/damage deposit is $300, here is what I do.
1. 1st payment (if more than 30 days out) = $300 (deposited to my bank) = this amount also equal my damage deposit
2. balance payment (at 30 days mark) = $ 1000 (deposited to my bank)
3. renter check in and stays.
4. renter leaves and we check for damages
5. if no damages I issue a refund for $300 (debited from my bank)

with a conventional security deposit, when it is "reserved" X days prior to check in, how does the owner get money if something is broken by guest, for example? because seems that security deposit amount is never actually deposited to owner's bank?

what is an advantage to this as opposed to my method? the only drawback of my method is it skews the numbers by overstating them by $300. TIA

holiday 3 night minimum? 3 replies

Jacques L
Apr 27, 2017 6:48 PM
Joined Jun, 2014 50 posts

Memorial Day weekend I usually get a million inquiries for Fri-Sun or Sat-Mon, but I only accept Fri-Mon.

3 night minimum for any stay that includes one of those 3 nights, I guess would be the rule I'm looking for.

I just set up the max days ahead thing, that should work perfectly for the other promblem; thanks.

VRBO and Subscription Options 30 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Apr 24, 2017 2:47 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1155 posts

Ha announced that external links (such as links to your website or Facebook etc) are now removed form your listings.

How to set up Holiday surcharge correctly? 8 replies

Ella
Apr 22, 2017 11:20 AM
Joined May, 2014 139 posts

Thank you Sam!!!

How to set up Holiday surcharge correctly? 8 replies

Sam Westcott
Apr 22, 2017 11:11 AM
OR Team Member Joined Dec, 2009 240 posts

@Ella: You're all set. Re-run your rates now and that should be gone. We pushed out a hotfix this morning that included this and a couple other things. Let us know if you see it happening again.

How to set up Holiday surcharge correctly? 8 replies

Sam Westcott
Apr 21, 2017 5:07 PM
OR Team Member Joined Dec, 2009 240 posts

@Ella: We found an old bug, related to this, that we're in the process of fixing. Thanks for finding it.

How to set up Holiday surcharge correctly? 8 replies

Ella
Apr 20, 2017 3:19 PM
Joined May, 2014 139 posts

Thank you very much!!
:)

How to set up Holiday surcharge correctly? 8 replies

Michelle J
Apr 20, 2017 3:15 PM
OR Team Member Joined Jan, 2011 582 posts

Yikes! Not sure what that's about, but we'll dig into it for you!

How to set up Holiday surcharge correctly? 8 replies

Ella
Apr 20, 2017 2:58 PM
Joined May, 2014 139 posts

I have noticed this for other holidays in the past as well but since I don't do instant bookings (yet), I have always manually deleted one of the surcharges and left just one when sending quotes. I looked up my settings and I do not have any custom holidays entered. Also in settings I have selected "Observe all weekend (Fri - Mon)" for all choices.
Ella

How to set up Holiday surcharge correctly? 8 replies

Ella
Apr 20, 2017 2:52 PM
Joined May, 2014 139 posts

Hi Michelle,
Thank you for quick reply. From May26-29 my calendar shows Memorial Day. I assume that it's from the system. I have not entered any holidays myself, not that I remember..
Ella

How to set up Holiday surcharge correctly? 8 replies

Michelle J
Apr 20, 2017 2:36 PM
OR Team Member Joined Jan, 2011 582 posts

Hi Ella,

Do you have two holidays in that time period? "Per multiplier" means it's calculating per Holiday instance. Is it possible that you have Memorial Day and something else triggering it? Look at the ribbon/month calendars and see what shows up in that time period.

Happy Friday!

How to set up Holiday surcharge correctly? 8 replies

Ella
Apr 20, 2017 2:33 PM
Joined May, 2014 139 posts

Hello,
I have a problem with the holiday surcharge. It shows up twice. My setting is "Per Multiplier", Holiday calculated per 1 after the first 0.
If I select dates May 25-29, it shows up twice, but if I select May 26-29, it shows once (correct). I need it to show once only, even if the stay is longer than 3 nights.
Thank you for your help.
Ella

Occupancy reports and blocked off time 10 replies

Marina's Edge Re
Apr 19, 2017 12:26 AM
Joined Oct, 2012 206 posts

I just emailed you a sample excel spreadsheet to help conceptualize this. Let me know what you think

Occupancy reports and blocked off time 10 replies

Marina's Edge Re
Apr 18, 2017 12:24 PM
Joined Oct, 2012 206 posts

That's correct. To simplify it you could even automatically pre-select bookings "as of booked date".

This allows me to at a glance do a year over year comparison of key metrics:

-Inquiries
-Bookings
-Occupancy
-Nights

Occupancy reports and blocked off time 10 replies

Chris Hynes
Apr 18, 2017 11:08 AM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

OK, so you want to pick 1 Jan 2017 to 31 Dec 2017 to filter stay dates. Then separately pick 15 April 2017 as the "booked as of" date.

So we'd grab all bookings staying from 1 Jan 2017 to 31 Dec 2017 where booked date <= 15 April 2017. You'd get an occupancy % for the whole year based on what was booked as of 15 April.

Then we'd go a year back and compare to all bookings staying from 1 Jan 2016 to 31 Dec 2016 where booked date <= 15 April 2016.

Any bookings staying in 2018 wouldn't be included at all, even if they were booked before 15 April 2017.