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Well the plus is that if I have no bookings via WH-managed site, I do not pay. Sounds like PL wants to pay whether I have bookings or not. I also did not understand whether paying for multiple channels pricing is extra on top of $49. Mine are year round, but at this point I do not think that my own pricing is so wrong that I absolutely need the pricing tool.
Depending on your monthly revenue, pricelabs can be cheaper or more expensive than wheelhouse. If you are seasonal, you can turn them off part of the year I think? It is fixed monthly.
3 properties 12 months a year would be you say $49 monthly? If they make 7500 monthly, that is similar to wheelhouse. Turn it off 5 months a year, it is much cheaper.
If you have property with high revenue, OK makes sense. If low revenue, WH makes sense.
To me, pricelabs and wheelhouse are the only two games in town.
Hi there! Is there a way to disable a single holiday? I'm subscribed to u.s. holidays however, and have set three nights minimum for holidays. However, there are some holidays where I would prefer not to require three nights. For example this ucoming veterans Day. I also have a holiday fee added to my rate during holidays but for this holiday I would prefer not to apply that extra fee. Is there a way to set this?
Thank you for assisting
Ella
I looked and they are way too expensive IMO. says $49 for 3 properties and I do not even know if that includes all channels + OR or ??? I I have used wheelhouse (good), beyondpricing (wild a..s guesses, don't like, will disconnect) for over a year. Wheelhouse charges .75% per booking, beyondpricing 1%. No bookings- nothing to pay, I like it that way.
being disappointed with beyondpricing (I used on VRBO, it just set lower than normal price for spring break, but sets some wildly high prices for other periods and they don't book), I think I will just use wheelhouse for trpadvisor (it never books anyhow) and go back to manual pricing like before. Just my 2 cents.
It's per property + an extra dollar to push to two.
Yes, I noticed that. I'm not sure if they charge per property, or per property pushed to a certain PMS/OTA. So I think for now while I'm trying them out I'll push to AirBNB only. Once OwnerRez can push to AirBNB and VRBO, I'll switch over to pushing to OR only and have OR push everywhere else.
Yep, that's the gist. You can also actually push to Airbnb right now because PriceLabs can do that push for you: http://blog.pricelabs.co/feature-update-mapping-listings-between-channels/
So, if I understand this correctly, I can use PriceLabs to update my OwnerRez pricing (provided I want to pay their fees), and then around the end of the year I can use OR to push those prices to AirBNB and VRBO, as long as I'm using the new channel integrations?
@BlueMtn: To sign up for Channels, go to the Billing section in the dropdown menu in the top-right. Hit "Change Premium Features" and turn on "Channel Management". We'll do a sweep of everybody that has channels enabled at the end of November and then apply the discount that way.
@Bennett: We're hard at work on knocking out those channels! VRBO should be in around the end of the year, with Airbnb to follow shortly.
@Maged: Thanks for the kind words! We spend a lot of time to try and simplify and standardize these channels... glad everything is working smoothly for you!
We can currently push to booking and TA (although TA requires the 5+). We'll have a channel bridge based rate push for VRBO, Air, TA etc. around the end of the year.
That's great news. I love everything that Owner Rez has to offer. It always feels very turn key compared to other solutions and they know exactly what we need before we do ourselves. I've tested the Beta version of the Channel Management and it's already more polished than many of the"established" Channel Managers out there (I've tested a few).
Channel integration is great but with missing out on full integration with all the majors (ie VRBO and Airbnb) and the fact that this is new and not fully integrated, I'm going to wait. When you have full flawless integration with all the majors, I'll def be signing up.
saw announcement, but where is the "sign up" to have 1st year for a $1/mo?
Awesome! Than you!
exciting, I have been using Wheelhouse (tripadvisor, Airbnb), and beyndPricing (VRBO). If I can use PriceLabs (provided that their fee is not too high) and then push Pricelabs driven pricing via channels to VRBO, TA, Booking etc , that would simplify life immensely! My observation lately beyodnPricing was wildly off the mark coming up with unrealistic prices. So I am hoping for better solution here :)
You're welcome *smile*
Don't forget to ask then to add OwnerReservations to their page. https://www.pricelabs.co/
It is a valuable Back link for you! Or any other dynamic pricer you use, usually have a list.
To others, PriceLabs has a good reputation. That is why I asked for them to be integrated.
We're very excited to announce our integration with PriceLabs! We've been hard at work on features to support this integration -- like the new Spot Rates concept that lets you "paint on top" of seasonal rates to set rates for specific days.
To learn more and set up the integration, follow the instructions in our PriceLabs Integration Guide.
PriceLabs is a powerful revenue management & dynamic pricing solution for vacation and short-term rentals. A data-driven approach, automation rules, and customizations to manage pricing and minimum-stay restrictions help vacation rentals increase revenues and save them hours in the process.
The customization options layer on top of market data help you automate things like cascading minimum stays (e.g., lower min-stay as a date gets closer, reduce min-stay to fill gaps), last minute discounts, orphan gap discount/premiums while still giving you good control over your pricing strategy. Learn more in this short video demo!
Yes. TripAdvisor Rentals and FlipKey are the same thing now. If you have a listing on TA Rentals, it will show on FlipKey and their other family of sites. They merged all that a couple years ago and now it's the same account. Basically, you need to follow our instructions in contacting them and saying you want to be use OwnerRez as a channel manager and then TA will convert you over to a new type of account (your reviews will be preserved) and give you a new Account ID to use. After connecting the TA channel in OwnerRez, read the instructions tab.
By "TripAdvisor", does that include Flipkey , etc?
We push all rules, rates and content for the listing. So the payment schedule (eg. 50% due up front, rest 45 days before arrival) is one of the things we push across. The TA channel settings in OR have some of these things broken out on the channel settings area. The rest come from the property data under the property menu. There are some channel-specific things (house rules, cancellation policy) that are unique to the channel, so those things are on the channel settings.
I am on pay per book with Tripadvsior, will it follow the settings set on OR or will Ta settings prevail (i.e per cent of down payment) etc.
Hi BlueMtnCabins,
We don't have a signup form. We'll be announcing additional channels directly. The direct channel integrations already in place are able to be connected if you have a channel (eg. Booking.com, CanadaStays, TripAdvisor) account in place. Go to Settings > Channels > Connect to get started. TripAdvisor is in active development right now and will be over the next couple months. Content/rate/availability/rule pushing is out and working. The booking part is in active development.
>>>> The promise of being on "hundreds" of channels rings hollow. The key is to be on the big 5 or 10 channels in your area and the rest are a distraction. More channels means more work and more things that can go wrong -- even with a channel manager you still end up running around doing little one-off fixes. <<<<
I SO AGREE. A VR owner being on Booking.com, HA family, TA family, AirBnB... Is full usage of these not going to bring you 95+% of the bookings? I follow their forums some and the constant problems and complaints. Communications that were lost, misunderstanding, new features, double bookings, wrangling with CS over problems or reviews...
So trying to get 5% more bookings and the potential complexities/problems of 50 more little sites? If you are on BringFido, aren't they likely also to select the Pet friendly places on the major OTAs? Doesn't the LGBQT market really strongly use the major OTAs more than MisterBnB? You are already getting a lot of the specialty market in the big OTAs. Besides, some of those small sites (like BedAndBreakfast.com) will probably be absorbed anyway.
I would only really be interested in additional things like PPC type ads or Social Media campaigns that bring people to my site without introducing breakable functionality between me and the customer.
Where is sign up form?
sounds great
Sounds great! I'll be waiting anxiously for the ability to push rates to AirBNB and VRBO
You may have wondered why it's been so quiet around here recently. We've been hard at work on a huge new feature: direct channel integration!
We've had two-way iCal sync and inquiry parsing for years, which provides the basic availability updates and inquiry quoting and auto response.
Direct channel integration has so much more potential: updating channels with rates, listing description, amenities, photos, receiving bookings with full financial and guest information, two way messaging with guests... and the list goes on from there.
In typical OwnerRez fashion, we evaluated the third party channel manager options and ended up developing our own direct channel sync engine which powers all of these integrations. There are four reasons we chose to build it ourselves instead of teaming up with a channel manager partner to save time:
You've seen a lot of "coming soon" language on OwnerRez this year, and we recently centralized the direct and synced channels into a main Channels area. All of that is currently free while we're in beta. Synced channels (iCal and inquiry parsing) will always be included with the base OwnerRez subscription. As of 1 December, direct and channel bridge channel integrations will become a premium feature, which will cost $9.99/mo for the first two properties and $1/mo for each property after that.
Here's what the premium channels feature will include as of 1 December:
As a bonus for our customers, whether you've new or have been with us for years (those of you around since 2009, thanks for making this all possible!) we're waving the $9.99 fee for the first year for anyone who signs up by 1 December. You'll just pay a flat $1/mo per property for premium channels until December 2019.
We've got great plans for more channels and more channel related feature throughout the rest of the year and into 2019.
As vacation rental owners ourselves we're salivating over the possiblities and can't wait to get all of this stuff done! The current roadmap starts with booking.com content push, then into VRBO/HomeAway and Airbnb content push (both via channel bridge for everyone and direct integrations for 5+ property users). After that we'll branch out into additional channels like Expedia and Agoda, and then fully integrate seamless messaging through all sources (channel direct, SMS, email, phone, etc).
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So... this might be a sensitive question ... but what is the consensus of the best gateway to use? Does anyone have any favorites? Right now I am using Sage (I think a long time ago when I joined Ownerrez I was able to use it free if I used Sage payments). if you go on their 'virtual terminal', it is pretty much that... a old terminal dump bolted onto a web page ... it seems like. I want to change my bank account that receives $ but the interface is so poor, there is no guidance on how to do that. I am wondering if there is a better gateway out there? Maybe one that has an interface that is not 1980's style? Anyone have any preferences?
This post is pretty old -- we're up to 20 gateways now: https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/payment-methods -- is yours any of those?
If not, which gateway is it? Sometimes a processor will support other gateways like Authorize.Net or eProcessing Network and/or they have different named gateways.
