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How to define Field Codes 10 replies

Julie M
May 27, 2019 8:28 PM
Joined Jul, 2018 7 posts

Thanks so much, Paul and JTVRs! I did search extensively before I posted my query, but did not see anything that answered my question. However, it does appear that I got ahead of myself - now I'm just going to go through my setup in order. :)

How to define Field Codes 10 replies

Paul W
May 27, 2019 8:23 PM
OR Team Member Joined Jun, 2009 864 posts

Hi Julie,

Great question. All the field codes - the main list of default field codes - come from rates, rules and settings already in OwnerRez. In the case of first payment amount and when the second payment is due, look at the property rules. Open and property > Rules tab> Change button and look at the First Payment and Second Payment section. What you put there defines what will render out in those field codes.

And here's a support article for all the field codes in OwnerRez and what they are:

https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/field-codes

How to define Field Codes 10 replies

JTVRs
May 27, 2019 6:30 PM
Joined Jun, 2018 385 posts

I would suggest you not to swallow around one Topic at a time. You should consider going through the following link topic by topic. You might not need the quote stuff.

Otherwise you might encounter a dozen other things you cannot do or might miss out on.

There is also a search area on top that might help.

https://www.ownerrez.com/support

How to define Field Codes 10 replies

Julie M
May 27, 2019 2:05 PM
Joined Jul, 2018 7 posts

Hey all!

I'm new to OR and trying to get my legal agreements set up, using OR's wonderful default agreement as my foundation. However, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to define the field codes. For example:

"If the booking is made more than {BSPDAY} days in advance of the arrival date, a payment of {BFPPOA} is taken by Owner at the time of the booking."

How/where do I define that BSPDAY should be 30 and BFPPOA should be 50% (or whatever)? Do I need to create them all in the Custom Field Definitions panel?

Thank you!

Expedia not recognized as an OTA 3 replies

Yavuz
May 26, 2019 11:53 PM
Joined May, 2019 15 posts

I agree. VRBO lists their properties under Expedia which is different. We list our property separately in Expedia and a channel manager as great as Booking.com would be highly expreciated.

Templates and Triggers and Reports, o my! 4 replies

JTVRs
May 26, 2019 11:31 PM
Joined Jun, 2018 385 posts

Great responses. Just seeking a little clarification

3) you said deal with the guests before booking. Obviously, for instant booking on the listing site, they only booked. I'm assuming that the OR template will take care of everything (normal) and they just contact me through the listing site communication systems for post booking questions and issues?

8) so the payment rules are only for direct booking or it also handles abb, BDC, VRBO, fk payment processing?

Templates and Triggers and Reports, o my! 4 replies

Chris Hynes
May 25, 2019 7:47 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

Yep, great questions and will answer right here for the edification of everyone! Answers:

1) The built in templates trigger when the associated event occurs in the system. Most of them, like dates changed, check-in/check-out changed, payment request, renter agreement request. etc. are linked to actions you (the owner) do in OwnerRez, so you'll see the option to send those emails out and optionally edit them before sending.

There are a few ones that will go out automatically during the reservation process -- Booking - send confirmation to guest, payment receipt, Renter Agreement - send archive copy to guest. And then payment receipts will be sent if an payment is processed automatically.

Payment reminders and security deposit reminders will go out if a) you have them enabled and b) there is no automatically scheduled payment -- those are to make sure that a manual payment isn't forgotten.

And if a booking is in the pending state because "check is in the mail", then the pending reminders will go out until you record a payment or clear the pending flag (covered in more detail in (4) below).

2) There's not a sandbox system. Instead, create test quotes with yourself as the guest and run them through to bookings. Then void the payment and cancel the booking. That way you can see how everything works end to end. If you're doing credit card payments you can change the charges down to a couple bucks beforehand so it doesn't hit your card for a large amount, or create a check or custom instructions payment method for testing and deactivate it after.

3) No, platform messaging doesn't go into OwnerRez currently. We have plans to add a whole unified inbox system, but that is a large undertaking. For now, deal with the guest before booking on the platform, then after booking you have all of the scheduled and triggered templates going out to their email automatically from OwnerRez.

4) Pending is for bookings payments you would take outside OwnerRez like checks, Venmo, Zelle etc. For those, when the booking is made we mark it pending with an auto cancel date if you don't record the payment by then.

For cancellations and cancellation policies, we don't enforce a specific policy on you and cancel and refund are two separate operations in OwnerRez. For OTA's, they'll have a cancellation policy and handle that as they process the payment for you. For direct bookings, cancel the booking in OwnerRez and refund according to your policy.

5) The amount due is based on the total charges for a booking. You can filter the List tab for bookings that have a balance due. If you're using credit cards, this will all be handled automatically -- first payment processed on booking, balance processed when it is due based on your rules on the Rules tab of each property (like 30 days before arrival), and you and the guest will both get emails if a payment fails.

6) For OTA's, some have a review link you can send via email, otherwise you'd handle that directly in the OTA system. For direct bookings, there's a review link/request email you can send to the guest.

7) To send gap night emails to current guests, use a template like this: https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/fill-gap-hole-nights. It's not going to automatically apply the discount, just get the guest to circle back with you and then you can add the charge when they confirm.

8) Yes, any payment > 0.

9) Not currently a way to filter the list down, but that's a good idea.

10, 12) Yep, listing site fees are what they take from the guest and what they take from you. If you want a charge by charge report, use the Line Item Pivot report.

11) For taxes, set them up in Settings > Taxes under the Pricing section. That'll assess the percentage on direct bookings and they'll show up as charges. Then use the Taxes report or Line Item Pivot report later to tally them up and prepare your remittance.

13) We don't have a specific additional guests list feature (it's on the todo list). You could add custom fields for that during checkout: https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/capture-additional-fields-on-checkout-quote-acceptance -- but that is just a text box and doesn't have any way to validate that it's an actual email address.

14) We pull as much as info as we can from listing sites, but VRBO is the only one that'll give you the real guest email (you can pull this in to OwnerRez through channel bridge: https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/channel-bridge). Some other smaller listing sites do this too, but BDC, ABB, etc are all going to give you a pass through email address that only works during the booking.

For those channels, set up a template/trigger like this: https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/airbnb-request-for-contact-info-real-email-address-and-signed-renter-agreement which will get them to sign the renter agreement and in the process provide their real email address (the renter agreement signing process will capture updated contact info for any future booking, but won't let them update contact info if a booking is in the past).

Description field - heading 3s - bolding not working? 3 replies

Chris Hynes
May 25, 2019 7:29 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

Ahh, I see what's going on. The editor theme is slightly different than what's on the hosted site. The hosted site headers are a medium bold, not the very heavy bold shown in the editor. To my eye that looks better than the heavier bold which is why the hosted site theme does that by default.

Keep in mind also that listing sites are going to use a plain text version of that description.

If you want to bolden up the <h3>'s on the hosted site, edit the site settings and add this CSS in the Layout section:

h3 { font-weight: bold; }

Templates and Triggers and Reports, o my! 4 replies

JTVRs
May 25, 2019 1:18 PM
Joined Jun, 2018 385 posts

I suspect others in the future will also find this useful...

ok- I went through Email Templates and Triggers, and Reports. I am trying to understand how to set these up effectively and have quite a few questions, below:

1) How do a lot of the custom templates know when to trigger?
For example, Dates Changed, Check-In/Check Out changed - how is things like this triggered?
Or Payment Request - does that automatically know when/what the payments are and verify it happened?
How does it know to send the Refund email templates?
Do these work with all major OTAs?
https://app.ownerrez.com/emailtemplates

2) is there a sandbox or test system where I can learn/fully test process a booking with fake data, credit cards, dates, reports, etc?
everything I see is empty such as reports, so hard to know what they will look like other than column headings

3) Do all guest.email responses from ABB, BDC, HA/VRBO, FK go to the OR Email system? So far, it is forum activity.
https://app.ownerrez.com/emails

4) pending cancellation and other cancellations - how does OR handle for direct bookings and OTAs?

5) Payments - how does OR know/handle that a sufficient payment was made? per a schedule

6) Review Request - how work with different OTAs and direct bookings?

7) How offer adjacent empty dates to current/near future at some discount - to lengthen their stay?

8) TRIGGER
- Payment > Partially Paid (how much constitutes a partial payment - as little as 1$??)

9) REPORTS
Can I remove all but the listing sites I want in my profile from the reports (not all 47) - only VRBO, ABB, BDC, FK, etc

10) REPORTS
Listing site fees report - is this just their commission? What about my admin, pet, PDP, extra guest, damage or other fees?

11) SUMMARY/DETAILS REPORTS
Taxes. In Pennsylvania, listing sites have to remit taxes. But for direct bookings, I have to. How does the system/report handle this? So I know what is my responsibility?

12) REPORTS
Listing site fees - just their host commission? What about my admin, pet, PDP, extra guest, damage or other fees?

13) EMAIL LIST REPORT
Also, is there a way to harvest the email/phone numbers of adult guests who are NOT the responsible party? perhaps when I send out the lease agreement? would like to gather for future "past guest" list (for future offers, etc).
Are all these emails pulled effectively from the major listing sites (BDC, FL, VRBO, ABB)

Description field - heading 3s - bolding not working? 3 replies

JTVRs
May 24, 2019 6:34 PM
Joined Jun, 2018 385 posts

All. In description, heading 3 looks bold in edit mode, but is unbolded in view mode (after save)

how do I disable Send Security Deposit Request To Guest 3 replies

Chris Hynes
May 23, 2019 12:35 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

They are off by default for imported bookings, however looks like you did a batch update a couple weeks ago when updating some secdep settings which turned them back on.

I skipped the reminders again for those 60 Airbnb/HomeAway bookings that had them enabled.

Description field - heading 3s - bolding not working? 3 replies

Chris Hynes
May 23, 2019 12:28 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

Which property are you having issues with? I'll have a look.

how do I disable Send Security Deposit Request To Guest 3 replies

James R
May 22, 2019 8:26 PM
Joined Jun, 2018 4 posts

For Airbnb bookings, this should be turned off automatically. We shouldn't have to go in and turn each one off manually. Can this be done? My Airbnb guests are receiving these emails and it really quite annoying. Thanks!

Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

BlueMtnCabins
May 21, 2019 12:20 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1159 posts

JTVRs said:

Dunno. The following may help. I just searched ifttt and thermostat. There were other results. If you cannot, couldn't you also do by day of week to get some benefit, such as if most people check in Friday and out Sunday, make this your default?

https://ifttt.com/honeywell_total_connect_comfort


No in my market people check in any day. Not Fri or Sun or any specific day. I need something to take care of gaps more than one night. Which fall onto any day of week.

Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

JTVRs
May 20, 2019 10:04 PM
Joined Jun, 2018 385 posts

try searching on those terms. That was just one promising hit

Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

BlueMtnCabins
May 19, 2019 4:45 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1159 posts

JTVRs said:

Dunno. The following may help. I just searched ifttt and thermostat. There were other results. If you cannot, couldn't you also do by day of week to get some benefit, such as if most people check in Friday and out Sunday, make this your default?

https://ifttt.com/honeywell_total_connect_comfort


I looked. It does not seem to have what I need.

Description field - heading 3s - bolding not working? 3 replies

JTVRs
May 18, 2019 10:24 PM
Joined Jun, 2018 385 posts

I have some heading 3 levels in my Descriptions. They look bold in Edit Mode, but they are often not. You have to select each one and apply bold, and it looks the same. So I wound up with a lot of heading 2s that were plain text and didnt look heading-ish upon save.

Play around a little in different ways with them and you should see.

Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

JTVRs
May 18, 2019 7:58 PM
Joined Jun, 2018 385 posts

Dunno. The following may help. I just searched ifttt and thermostat. There were other results. If you cannot, couldn't you also do by day of week to get some benefit, such as if most people check in Friday and out Sunday, make this your default?

https://ifttt.com/honeywell_total_connect_comfort

Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

BlueMtnCabins
May 18, 2019 12:39 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1159 posts

I am resurrecting this topic in case someone has solved how to control the thermostat from ical? or some other way? I do not usually care to change temp on a turnover day, but if the gap is 2 nights or more, I'd like to have some way of setting temp. to what it should be. I have 3 VRs with 7 thermostats and 2 apps between them (5 are Honeywell 9000) so we are constantly on "thermostat watch". so I would like at least to be able to deal with the Honeywell bunch. If someone has figured it out via IFTTT or something else, please do share.

Expedia not recognized as an OTA 3 replies

JTVRs
May 17, 2019 3:20 PM
Joined Jun, 2018 385 posts

That would be good. Expedia is actually a family of things like Orbitz and others, that I consider philosophically separate from HomeAway + VRBO. I would like to try to use each separately if possible

Expedia not recognized as an OTA 3 replies

Chris Hynes
May 17, 2019 12:53 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

If you add a custom channel called "Expedia" it will match that up.

We've got a planned overhaul to split the "channel" and "listing site" concept so it's a two level thing which will solve this issue for good.

Expedia not recognized as an OTA 3 replies

Rich S
May 17, 2019 12:00 PM
Joined Dec, 2018 302 posts

When using channel bridge to import bookings from vrbo which orginated from Expedia, I am seeing a message that Expedia isn't recognized, using vrbo instead.

Is there a way to capture the fact that the guest used Expedia (via Vrbo) to book with me?

If it didn't break anything else, maybe I could make a custom channel called VRBO-Expedia ?

Channel bridge 7 replies

BlueMtnCabins
May 17, 2019 9:55 AM
Joined Jun, 2016 1159 posts

Chris Hynes said:

We may do TripAdvisor channel bridge as well, do you get a lot of bookings from them? We have held off thus far on the rate push because they only support seasonal rates and the current channel bridge rate push uses the nightly rates that both HomeAway and Airbnb use now.

Don't bother with TA. One-two bookings a year do now warrant the effort IMO. Alos TA has limitation that you must have 5 properties or more.

@JTVR, also note that while full blown API may become available for a given channel, channel itself may have a limitation (live VRBO and TA) that you MUST have 5+ properties. I think this is artificial limit. But, since I have only 3 so to me it won't matter whether OR has API with given channel or not - the OTHER side won't allow me to integrate. I think Channel Bridge works quite well.

Channel bridge 7 replies

Chris Hynes
May 17, 2019 8:28 AM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

We may do TripAdvisor channel bridge as well, do you get a lot of bookings from them? We have held off thus far on the rate push because they only support seasonal rates and the current channel bridge rate push uses the nightly rates that both HomeAway and Airbnb use now.

Channel bridge 7 replies

Elizabeth M
May 16, 2019 8:22 PM
Joined Feb, 2017 10 posts

Thanks, Chris. Very helpful. Do you plan on having channel bridge for TripAdvisor since the API is only for accounts with 5 or more properties?

Channel bridge 7 replies

JTVRs
May 16, 2019 8:20 PM
Joined Jun, 2018 385 posts

ok, clarification?

January:
"Currently, we have API Integrated integration for Booking.com, CanadaStays, TripAdvisor and (very soon) VRBO/HomeAway."
"we built an in-house tool called "Channel Bridge" that simulates the user with the goal of copy and pasting data between their channel account and their OwnerRez account. "

Now:
Is the theory that once you have API integrated for TA, VRBO, etc the channel bridge is no longer needed?

Channel bridge 7 replies

Chris Hynes
May 16, 2019 5:35 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

I had answered on the support request, but figured I'd copy it here for everyone's edification...

Channel bridge rate push works for VRBO/HomeAway and also Airbnb.

1) Set up Channel Bridge (if you haven't already): https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/channel-bridge-install
2) Open the Chrome browser and log in to VRBO (or Airbnb)
3) Go to Settings > Channel Connections and click on the VRBO channel in the list (if you don't have one already, hit the Connect button, find it under Synced Channels, and add it)
4) Hit the Change Property Settings button and enter your VRBO or HomeAway listing numbers (just the numbers, nothing else)
5) Hit the Push Rates button which will open up a dialog where you can review the rates to be pushed
6) In the dialog, use the Push Rates button to perform the push.

Channel bridge 7 replies

Elizabeth M
May 16, 2019 4:46 PM
Joined Feb, 2017 10 posts

Hi Paul,

Can you give further information on which sites the channel bridge can now push rates to and how to do it? I reviewed the literature and do not even see the rate push being an option, but know like you said the documentation writing is taking a back burner to the pushing of features.

Thanks,
Elizabeth

VacationSoup.com 4 replies

BlueMtnCabins
May 16, 2019 2:48 PM
Joined Jun, 2016 1159 posts

I tried WP and hated it. I am somewhat of IT person but it was anything but easy (site created by someone and I was just trying to edit and maintain it). I am much more happy with sitelio hybrid type site - it has templates and drag and drop, yet allows customization like inserting scripts, seo etc.

Pet Agreement 6 replies

Chris Hynes
May 16, 2019 1:21 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

Yep, there are a couple ways to do this. Most people just add a few paragraphs to their standard agreement that refer to "if pets are included" and show the pet count.

You can also set up a separate pet legal agreement template if you want. Then either go to the Legal tab of booking and request an additional signature on that.

If you want to set up a trigger to send that automatically you can do that as well. It'll definitely work for direct bookings, but keep in mind that for listing site bookings, many don't send pet counts, or send a single "has pets" flag which we treat as one pet.