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Yes. You can define $10, 20 or $35 per booking which is equal to $500, 1500 or 3500 of coverage per booking.
Is it possible to turn insurance on but define different coverage for different properties? I.e smaller property - smaller coverage? Thanks
here's example:
$219 x 3 Nights $657
Cleaning fee $130
Taxes (12.75%) $100.34
Total $887
Security Deposit $300
Total + Deposit $1,187
"total" being bold face
But in any case, if I go with hod secdep , how do you do hold on those who pay by check/venmo? They have to send additional check or payment?
Right, yes, I get the part about the difference in types and how the charges show. We're working on it (and we have updated TI to let the guest specify the amount so they can remove the secdep or add air travel costs etc).
However, my point is that the hold vs charge doesn't really matter if it's on a credit card. If a security deposit charge is disputed, the bank will remove the funds just the same as they would for a security deposit hold. In your example, it wouldn'tve mattered if the PM had done a full charged secdep instead of a hold -- when the dispute was made the money would have been removed even if it was a charge. When a dispute comes down, regardless of whether it's a charge or a hold, the bank will yank the money until the dispute is resolved. If they don't settle in your favor then your only recourse is a lawsuit.
The only way around that is to take the deposit via some non credit card means like check/cash/venmo -- something that doesn't have a dispute process.
Chris Hynes said:
@BlueMtn - We're on the home stretch with our channel integrations now, which have been taking up most of the time. Once that's done we'll get into some much needed overhauls in other areas like secdeps.What are your worries with holds? Like @Stacy said, going with ARDI doesn't mean you have to drop the secdep -- on my properties I do both ARDI and a hold.
here is what my quotes look like
Item Description Rate Amount
Rent 3 nights (4/26 - 4/28, departing 4/29) during Standard at Weekend Night rate at $189.00 per Weekend Night $567.00 $567.00
Surcharge Cleaning Fee based on $130.00 per stay $130.00 $130.00
Tax TN Sales + County Lodging Tax 12.75% $88.87
Surcharge REFUNDABLE DAMAGE DEPOSIT based on $300.00 per stay $300.00 $300.00
Total: $1,085.87
So as you can see "refundable damage deposit" shown before total, and it makes quote looks larger than it is. So if there was a way to show it after total or something like that. That way the Travel insurance would also not include the deposit amount ( as that does not need to be insurable anyhow).
Every time I am on the verge to go to CC hold (vs actual money charge), I get some new example why I should not. Like in our Smokies group, just happened. A lady has a PM. PM rented her cabin to a group. There was no actual money charged as secdep but was a CC hold. The group had a drunken fight and bashed out a window and window frame. $1400 in damage. But here is the kicker. One person who signed the rental agreement and gave their CC is now refusing to pay and disputing secdep because it was the OTHER person in their group who was brawling and broke the window. That is what I do not like about CC holds. This may be not likely if you have small 1 bd properties not conducive to groups. Mine accommodate 10-12-16 people so groups are common. I do not want "he did - she did" in a group should something happen. I want actual $$$ in my account :-)
@BlueMtn - We're on the home stretch with our channel integrations now, which have been taking up most of the time. Once that's done we'll get into some much needed overhauls in other areas like secdeps.
What are your worries with holds? Like @Stacy said, going with ARDI doesn't mean you have to drop the secdep -- on my properties I do both ARDI and a hold.
I am with Chris on this... I charge a security deposit AND have the ARDI damage insurance for every booking at $20 for $1500. I increased my cleaning fee by $20 to cover that cost. I agree that renters need some skin in the game but you want to also be covered for anything that exceeds the deposit. (I learned this the hard way with my very first guest in my 2 month old house!) For guests that are returning and took good care of my home on the prior stay, I only charge them $100 security deposit since I know the likelihood is low that they'll need it and I have the $1500 just in case. This also allows me to keep my deposit lower than it used to be on the listing sites which helps with the total that they see. -Esp when the sites fees are steadily increasing.
Any update on showing actual damage deposit differently (i.e maybe after the total). I am having cold feet going with cc hold secdep or the ARDI insurance in lieu of actual deposit changed to renter. bUt I think that total looks overstated as many ppl do not take time to actually look at line items...
Do you have pre-existing bookings or quotes that were in place before setting the 2nd payment to 60 days out? If so, those pre-existing bookings or quotes will retain the rules from before. You have to adjust those rules on the booking or quote directly.
My property is set for second payment 60 days out, yet the reminder emails are creating a date 90 days out so I'm not using them. I double checked my property setting and it's definitely showing 60 days. Is there another area that I am forgetting about where the email reminder pulls from?
Thank you!
I don't think there is a Sam here anymore...?
@Sam , was this ever applied (changing when/if and how many reminders are sent for security deposit)?
Hey guys, sorry for the delay in responding. You set that on the property rules now, not the payment method (check method) itself. Each property can define when, or if, it accepts checks and how far before arrival. If you don't have an active check payment method, then those rules are ignored of course. They only matter if the check method is in place and used for that property.
You can also tweak this on the quote or booking levels after they have been created.
Check payment methods are absolutely alive and well. There are many use cases for offering it to guests. You can also apply a dynamic discount (eg. 1-2% type thing) if they select paying by check when booking. This can be a good incentive for pushing them away from CC and not paying your CC fees. For large/expensive properties, this can be a great thing to offer.
I realize this thread is ancient, but one thing I learned as a landlord is that I don't accept checks. Besides bouncing, it is hard to prove that a check writer knowingly passed a bad check. There is multiple conditions that allow them to weasel out and make it not a crime.
For my standard rental properties, I only accept money orders issued by the post office or Walmart. Certainly not for a bank I'm not familiar with; everyone has access to one or the other. Then if it is bad, it was fraudulent and illegal, and there is no way they can weasel out. Also, there is no waiting for a check to clear! I never had complaints from my customers about money order usage.
what is check acceptance rate?
Same here there is no place to change or even see the check acceptance date.
You'll be able to distribute to Expedia through our HomeAway integration.
We're planning on direct Expedia integration eventually, but that's a good deal farther out.
Do you intend to add Expedia to the channel manager?
Hi Ross,
That will work - having channel bridge pull across - for combination properties as long as you have the same listings on the channels, and typically most users do that. So if you have properties:
Property A
Property B
Property AB
You would have listings on VRBO and Airbnb for the same thing. Property A might be "The Green Room at Luxury Villa" where Property ABC is "The entire Luxury Villa".
ugh, you responded to a question I had recently, but I do not remember how to search the forums themselves.
Previously, I asked about combining my VRs, both on my hosted website and on the OTAs. for example, I have two 5-bedroom (attached to each other) townhomes. I would like to offer them both together as well as a single 10 bedroom VR. I would do the commission model on HA/VRBO.
On the channels and channel bridge, how would it handle having (lets call these) Property A, Property B, and Property "A+B"?
The rate push only goes to their nightly rate model (not the old seasonal rates). Which are you on?
Also make sure you're on the latest version: https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/updating-channel-bridge-to-latest-version -- we just pushed up a fix today where an older version was setting a 14% weekly discount -- now it only pushes rates, not the weekly discount.
I used channel bridge to push rates to VRBO. Says successful, but so far I do not see updated rates on VRBO? Or is there a time lag?
Awesome thought @BlueMtnCabins - I'm in same boat (2 properties now, 3rd this summer)
if I were to ask VRBO to enable the channel (I only have 3 properties) what do I need to tell them? And magic words to make them recognize OR? I have heard they are budging on 5 property minimum requirement. TY
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Yep, Kaba's still in the works. Focusing down on HomeAway API integration right now, and then the rest will come up after that.
Great work indeed.
I did not see Kaba lock integration in the plans for Jan-Feb. Is it no longer in the plans in early 2019?
Impressive work - very glad I found OR this year!
New Years is a great time to look back on the year and plan for the next year. While reviewing our blog, I realized that we've added so much new functionality to OwnerRez, but hadn't always announced it here. So I figured I'd take a quick trip down memory lane and put together a list of the major items we added this year.
WARNING: this is going to be a long blog post 😁
CHANNELS
Adding channel integrations was our primary focus in 2018. We started off the year with a bang, adding booking.com API integration and Channel Bridge booking import for HomeAway and Airbnb. More recently, we've rolled out TripAdvisor API integration and have been hard at work on HomeAway API integration (due out by February).
Quick side note on terms:
"API integration" refers to a preferred communication method between our servers and the channel's servers. All API integrated channels can push rates and availablity automatically as well as receive bookings back from the channel automatically. All channels have percentage based rate adjusters which allow you to increase the rates on a per-channel basis. Some API integrated channels can also push listing content (description, amenities, photos, rules etc.), receive inquiries, or integrate with the platform messaging.
HomeAway, Airbnb, and TripAdvisor all have a 5+ property minimum for API integration (Booking.com and CanadaStays do not).
"Channel Bridge" is a proprietary tool that we've developed that logs in to your channel account through your browser and downloads booking information and reviews and pushes rates directly. This sidesteps that 5+ property limitation, so all users regardless of size can keep their OwnerRez bookings up to date
GUESTS
Early in the year we did a big overhaul that took the scattered contact info and centralized it into the concept of Guests. Each inquiry, quote, and booking has a Guest, tying them together and allowing you to manage the contact info in one place. You can also merge guests and bookings together to keep track of repeat guests, as well as picking an existing guest when generating a new quote.
We also added several other features to improve the guest experience:
HOSTED WEBSITES & WIDGETS
Ever since we rolled out our hosted website feature in 2016 we've been continuously improving and refining it, and this year was no different.
GENERAL QOL
We refer to the general improvements we make as "quality of life" enhancements. Here are the big ones this year.
OTHER INTEGRATIONS
REPORTS
EMAIL TRIGGERS & TEMPLATES
Email triggers and templates is another area where we've made massive improvements, from new events to new trigger criteria to forecasting so you can see what triggers are queued to be sent.
PROPERTY MANAGEMENT (PM)
QUICKBOOKS
Our QuickBooks Integration went through two large updates this year, the last of which was a major overhaul. We changed how syncing works to correct a number of bugs and also added transparency between OwnerRez and QuickBooks records so that you can see what is being created on both sides. As I write this, we are actually finishing up another update on QuickBooks that will allow you to change settings for different surcharges, deposit accounts, invoice dates, invoice numbers and more.
Looking back, the list of what we did in 2018 is pretty massive, but looking forward, the list of what we’re working on (and going to be working on after that) is even bigger!
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