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Trip Advisor Booking 7 replies

Chris Hynes
Oct 11, 2019 10:48 AM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

We don't have channel bridge for TripAdvisor. We do have API integration that can push across properties and get back the bookings automatically: https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/connecting-or-to-tripadvisor-api

What I've heard on TripAdvisor is dependent on area. Some places they send lots of bookings while other areas it's here and there.

Rate questions: hide "Rates" section on hosted website, customize rate adjustment for individual listing 11 replies

Chris L
Oct 10, 2019 10:24 PM
Joined May, 2017 208 posts

I'm using PriceLabs now (with decent success, though I still have Wheelhouse managing rates on some of my Airbnb listings and am still comparing).

As such, the default/seasonal rates basically have no bearing on any of my listings. I was going through my hosted website and noticed that the Rates section displays my seasonal rates, which can potentially cause some confusion (or even lost conversions) for guests--they may not realize that the actual rates will differ from the standard rates based on the dates. I'd get rid of them entirely, but OR (and, per your blog post, PL) doesn't really like listings without a default rate.

Also, PL only supports pricing rates up to one year out (understandable), but OR seems to allow bookings past that point by default, so I have to have some basic/default rate that appears for that. Although ideally I'd like to just globally only allow bookings up to a maximum of one year out (as nice as it would be to hold someone's money for 3 years, who knows what properties I'll own/manage at that time, ha). I can't find a global setting for this.

Last, one of my HomeAway listings fell out of the Premier Partner program due to one bad review (a guest unhappy with some temporary construction noise; she gave me a 1-star review even though I gave her a significant refund...). I'm trying to stimulate bookings for that property specifically through that channel to try to bump up the review score and get listed as a Premier Partner again.

So, 3 questions:

1) Is there a way to just entirely hide the "Rates" section on my hosted website?
2) Is there a global setting to disallow bookings more than 1 year out?
3) Is there any way to change (i.e. mark up or mark down) the rates on a *specific* property on a specific channel? I know you can adjust rates for an entire channel, but I don't want to lower the rates for all of my properties on HomeAway, only the one that I'm trying to drive bookings to.

Question about charges on Airbnb bookings imported through OR Channel Bridge 5 replies

Valerie R
Oct 10, 2019 10:14 PM
Joined Sep, 2019 122 posts

I used the OwnerRez Channel bridge to import the Airbnb bookings for my properties. I have a question about the way the "Charges" are being broken out on these bookings.

In our FL location, Airbnb collects & remits 100% of all of the required taxes (11.5%). But in the "Charges" section of the imported Airbnb bookings they all have a "State Sales Tax (6%)" line item included in the funds for the "invoice' that the guest pays you for the booking."

See this screen shot:
https://snipboard.io/98Pboi.jpg

Why does this 6% State Sales tax line item appear in the invoice section instead of in the "Guest Channel Fees" section? Have I incorrectly set up the taxes for this property that is causing this?

Trip Advisor Booking 7 replies

Sarah H
Oct 10, 2019 9:37 PM
Joined Jul, 2019 109 posts

Have you had success with Trip Advisor bookings? Can the details be imported into OwnerRez? I don't see an option to download bookings in the Channel Bridge, but I do have bookings.

Remote lock subscription 8 replies

Sarah H
Oct 10, 2019 9:35 PM
Joined Jul, 2019 109 posts

Well heck, I just order these Remote Locks. What was the issue you had? I bought one, tested it at home for a while (not the API, just the regular functionality of assigning and deleting codes manually), then I bought 7 of them.

How does the pricing between Stripe and Lynbrook compare? 35 replies

Sarah H
Oct 10, 2019 9:25 PM
Joined Jul, 2019 109 posts

Wanted to follow up on this one, any update?

Evolve and my OR calendar stopped syncing - anyone else? Or just me? 4 replies

Sarah H
Oct 10, 2019 9:13 PM
Joined Jul, 2019 109 posts

Can I ask what Evolve does for your if you are on Owner Rez? Do you like Evolve (minus the calendar issue)?

Payments by Booking.com transaction fees...zero? 2 replies

Sarah H
Oct 10, 2019 9:04 PM
Joined Jul, 2019 109 posts

Have you had your first guests arrive/depart yet? Interested as well. How hard was it to set up on Booking.com?

Payments by Booking.com transaction fees...zero? 2 replies

Chris L
Oct 10, 2019 6:07 PM
Joined May, 2017 208 posts

I recently listed some of my properties with Booking.com. They have so far forced me to use Payments by Booking.com, where they charge the customer's card and transfer the funds to me the day after check-in.

I was initially looking to move to charging directly through OR, but I think I've discovered that, at least in the US market, they aren't charging a transaction fee. The amount they transferred to me is exactly the amount of the booking, and no fee was deducted.

I can deal with the lack of cashflow if I'm basically earning ~2.7% extra on every booking by avoiding transaction fees. :)

Anyone else able to confirm this?

Anecdotally (from what I've read online), it does seem that using Payments by Booking.com also seems to discourage flaky, likely-to-cancel guests and provides some insulation against chargeback risk, especially since Booking's options for guest verification are limited.

It's a little more difficult to deal with the whole security deposit thing (I'm currently attempting to send guests a link to enter their CC info into OR for that, but it seems that guests have a hard time finding/opening/reading messages sent to them through Booking.com, so that experiment may fail), but so far I've been OK.

It'll be interesting to see the demographic that uses Booking.com. My first guest was from about 3 hours away (Midwest) coming down for just a weekend stay...

Adding a PDF file to an Email Template 5 replies

Lydia B
Oct 10, 2019 5:08 PM
Joined May, 2019 159 posts

Perfect! I'm never quite sure where to look for stuff. Thank you.

Payment Methods 0 replies

Lydia B
Oct 10, 2019 5:04 PM
Joined May, 2019 159 posts

I have 4 payment methods set up: credit card, paypal, venmo and check. I have a direct book guest who made their first payment by check. When I was reviewing the trigger emails that will go to her for her second payment, the only options she will be given are CC and paypal. I looked at another guest, who is scheduled two months later, and all 4 payment options show up. I checked the rules for the property and there are no specific settings for second payments. The settings for first payment say:

First Payment
Rule
50% required up front
Offline Payments
For checks, arrival date must be at least 60 days in the future
For custom instructions, arrival date must be at least 45 days in the future

Seems like this might be the issue because the second payment request goes out 33 days before arrival. But I'm looking at second payments, not first. Thoughts?

Answering Guest/Prospect Inquiries from airbnb and vrbo 2 replies

Sharfunnisa Q
Oct 10, 2019 10:57 AM
Joined Jul, 2018 15 posts

Ohh this is brilliant. I think an email such as this should absolutely cover most of the questions I get asked.. Thank you so much - BlueMtnCabins

Adding a PDF file to an Email Template 5 replies

Janice T
Oct 9, 2019 11:47 PM
Joined Mar, 2016 63 posts

Lydia - There is a place to save files in OR. :)
In the top right corner (desktop) next to your account name, click the menu down arrow and then choose "Files". I use this feature a lot!

Channel API & taxes 3 replies

Chris Hynes
Oct 9, 2019 7:47 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

Yep, paying separately would be the best bet on that. Airbnb is rolling out this feature over time so if some of them have that option hopefully they'll get it to all -- definitely something to ask Airbnb support about as you transition over.

Channel API & taxes 3 replies

Valerie R
Oct 9, 2019 1:38 PM
Joined Sep, 2019 122 posts

Thank you Chris, that makes sense. I'll go check all of those other listings' tax settings.

UPDATE:

I discovered on my Airbnb account that some of my listings have the invitation to "Add Tax" as you've described, but not all. One of the listings that I currently have to collect 2% for is one that does not have the option to have Airbnb pass the tax through to me. So, I'm still unsure how to handle the 2% tax for that property. Maybe I can just ask the guest to pay it separately, after they book.

Evolve and my OR calendar stopped syncing - anyone else? Or just me? 4 replies

Monica R
Oct 9, 2019 1:36 PM
Joined Feb, 2018 86 posts

You're correct, they are merging adjacent bookings. Blergh. I already have that calendar pulling to a Google calendar and it does the same thing.

However, that isn't really my issue. The issue is that the Evolve calendar seems to have stopped syncing bookings with the OR calendar. I have bookings that are simply not being pulled into OR. I get bookings from Evolve, but their calendar is such a pain in my ass, I swear.

Thanks Chris.

Creating a secure custom form in OR to request for ID 15 replies

Rich S
Oct 9, 2019 1:16 PM
Joined Dec, 2018 302 posts

@Tim K - the problem is that legally it's a bad idea for owners to possess personal information from guests, such as credit card numbers or driver's licenses.

In CO and maybe other states there is legislation that requires owners to take difficult (for individuals) steps to secure these kinds of things correctly, so what's needed is some method for a 3rd party (who can meet the legal reqts) to do it on our behalf.

Your idea does have merit though, if everyone used dropbox they could give password protected access to owners who in turn could see it. But the problem is that a guest who ends up violating some rule would surely revoke the access unless they forgot about it, and you as owner might not realize it.

Seasons - Check In/Out Allowed - Not "Date" Specific? 6 replies

Chris Hynes
Oct 9, 2019 12:49 PM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

API integration is just the general concept of that direct connection with a channel where we can manage everything via API.

HomeAway and TripAdvisor require 5 properties for API integration. Airbnb and booking.com don't have any minimums, so you can use those integrations with just one property. Airbnb API integration is in beta currently and will be released to everyone in a few weeks.

Connecting to Airbnb API 1 reply

Valerie R
Oct 9, 2019 12:48 PM
Joined Sep, 2019 122 posts

Hello,

I am trying to follow the instructions on the article below to connect to the Airbnb API:

https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/channel-management-api-integrations-airbnb-setup-connecting

However, on the "Connect Another Channel" page https://app.ownerrez.com/settings/channels/add there is no "Connect" button on the Airbnb option.

Which is correct? Should we be able to connect to the Airbnb API as the article is instructing, or is the Airbnb connection "Coming soon" as the Connect Another Channel page says?

Creating a secure custom form in OR to request for ID 15 replies

Tim K
Oct 9, 2019 12:45 PM
Joined Jul, 2017 77 posts

My thought is to create a workaround until OR gets something implemented. You could set up an "ID upload template" in OR. In the template, include a link to a document upload site (like dropbox) and have people upload the ID. Or just have a template with your phone number and ask them to text the photo to you.

Seasons - Check In/Out Allowed - Not "Date" Specific? 6 replies

Lydia B
Oct 9, 2019 12:39 PM
Joined May, 2019 159 posts

Trying to make it so my cleaning folks don't have to work day before, day of and sometimes day after a holiday. So that would include check-in and check-out.

Still learning the terms: When you say "API integrations like AirBnB" does that mean for those who have 5 or more properties? Or do I get the benefit of pushing check in/out with just one rental?

THANKS!

Seasons - Check In/Out Allowed - Not "Date" Specific? 6 replies

Chris Hynes
Oct 9, 2019 11:44 AM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

Yep, for restrictions like that you'd need a season every year because the dates are different. What's the actual rule you're trying to set? Can't check in within 2 days of a holiday?

For the channel bridge rate push, it will push the rate and min nights.

For API integrations like Airbnb and booking.com, we'll push the allowed check in/out days as well.

Brief Overview of Spot Rates (import/view/manage/push to VRBO) 7 replies

Rich S
Oct 9, 2019 11:40 AM
Joined Dec, 2018 302 posts

@Lydia B - I know that minimum nights do get pushed, and technically that means OR gives you the ability to assign a value (min nights) to each date, and then push that value to VRBO.

I've tested only with VRBO and that works.

As to how VRBO handles the min nights I'm not certain. I've read in forums people who complain that their algorithm is flawed, and that you can get into odd situations where your min night setting isn't observed. The example given was where only the min night reqt from the arrival night was honored, and where other (later) dates had min night settings that were violated. That seems to be what you're asking.

I don't know if that's possible, but I try to keep an eye on VRBO as my dates start filling in and I do micro-adjustments in VRBO that make sense. I suppose I could do that in OR too, but it's just so easy to tweak directly from the VRBO site so for little changes that's what I do.

In any case, once min nights are pushed by OR into VRBO, it's all about how VRBO handles things, so not really something OR can control.

Channel API & taxes 3 replies

Chris Hynes
Oct 9, 2019 11:40 AM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

For HomeAway in API integrated mode, they will use the taxes you've got configured in OwnerRez. They will collect all of them but they don't remit anything -- instead the entire amount will be passed through to you and you'll remit them all yourself.

For Airbnb, they have recently added a custom tax collection mode where you can do the same thing -- set all of the taxes to be collected, and then have them pass all of them through to you and remit them.

If you check on a listing in your Airbnb account in the Local taxes and laws section (see screenshot), do you see that Custom option? If so, you'll be able to do passthrough taxes on Airbnb as well.

That way you can configure the correct taxes everywhere and there is no issue with double tax because of tax on tax issues that happens when you add the extra taxes to your rate.

Brief Overview of Spot Rates (import/view/manage/push to VRBO) 7 replies

Chris Hynes
Oct 9, 2019 11:34 AM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

When pushing rates via channel bridge, the rates and min nights will be pushed. Allowed check-in/out days won't be pushed.

If you're on an API connection like (HomeAway/TripAdvisor/booking.com/Airbnb) in API integrated mode, then we do push the allowed check-in/out days as well.

I believe that Airbnb and VRBO will use the longest minimum stay for a day in the period. I'd recommend double checking the logic once pushed because each site does things a little differently. Longest minimum makes sense, but some things like discounts are based on arrival day.

Are we able to schedule emails for future dates? 4 replies

Chris Hynes
Oct 9, 2019 11:32 AM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

Yep, editing the scheduled messages is on the to-do list!

Evolve and my OR calendar stopped syncing - anyone else? Or just me? 4 replies

Chris Hynes
Oct 9, 2019 11:31 AM
OR Team Member Joined Oct, 2012 1403 posts

I know we've had a couple reports of issues with Evolve, but everything looks good from our end -- we can access the iCal and the syncs are running.

However I notice that it looks as if Evolve is combining together adjacent bookings into one event. For example if you have a booking from 10/1 to 10/5 and one from 10/5 to 10/10 they'll just put in one event in the iCal from 10/1 to 10/10. If that's the case with yours there will be no way for the system to know where one booking ended and the next began.

My recommendation is to pull that iCal into Google Calendar (so it's a third party proof), and if it shows incorrectly over there then contact Evolve support and see if there's a way to get an iCal that shows actual individual bookings.

Brief Overview of Spot Rates (import/view/manage/push to VRBO) 7 replies

Lydia B
Oct 9, 2019 11:28 AM
Joined May, 2019 159 posts

that last sentence should have been:

...what happens if guest on VRBO or ABB requests a booking beginning on April 14? Will the 5 night minimum kick in since their stay gets into April 15-17? (These are just random dates for the example.)

Channel API & taxes 3 replies

Valerie R
Oct 9, 2019 10:53 AM
Joined Sep, 2019 122 posts

Hello,

I am beginning to research using OR's Channel Manager, so am reading all of the documentation about it.

On this article https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/channel-management-api-integrations-preparation it says:

"Test that taxes are correct. If you had taxes turned off for a channel previously (like HomeAway because they were remitting taxes for you) make sure to turn them back on before going API. Some channels stop remitting taxes for you once you go API, so you need to make sure they are being collected. Consult the channel documentation we have for each channel to verify the specifics."

When I was testing as suggested, I discovered an issue.

In two of my properties' locations, Airbnb & VRBO collects & pays all except 2% of the required taxes. So in OR, I've entered the location's full tax rate (7.3% in VA and 10.875% in CO) for quotes for direct bookings, and I've also added a "2%" tax in each location, to use for VRBO & Airbnb bookings.

When testing, the system (of course) presented both tax options. I assume this might be a problem if I want to use the API Channel manager, right?

What do the rest of you do in locations where the listing site does not collect/remit ALL of the required taxes?

Are we able to schedule emails for future dates? 4 replies

Valerie R
Oct 9, 2019 9:42 AM
Joined Sep, 2019 122 posts

Thank you for the instructions, I'm happy to see that we can schedule "one off" emails for future dates.

The only thing I can think of that would make this even better is if we were able to edit a specific message once it has been scheduled (queued).