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Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

Randy Juneau
Aug 15, 2017 12:44 AM
Member for 13 years 38 posts

Is there any way to tie a motion detector to your thermostat systems? Then if there was no motion detected for say 12 hours, it would trigger the thermostats to a setting. Check out MicasaVerde.com. They have home controllers that solve some of those issues. There's no integration with OR though but perhaps you could get someone to do the integration using their API.

Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 14, 2017 11:31 AM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

I understand this is not the highest priority, i just thought that you guys being as technologically attuned as you are, may have come across some sort of a solution for your own VRs. I am building 3rd VR that will have THREE Honeywell 9000s, bringing the total number of thermostats I have to control:

1) 2 - VR#1 ( two independent HVAC units) - Honeywell 9000 thermostats
2) 2 - VR#2 (one HVAC unit, zoned) - Bryant Evolution Connex thermostats
3) 3 - VR#3 ( two HVAc units, one is zoned) - Honeywell 9000 thermostats - not built yet
4) 1 - own home - Honeywell 9000

That is 8 thermostats to control! ( currently 5)
So #1, 3 and 4 can fortunately be on same app.
But really looking forward to calendar integration, as now hubby is the one who has to remember to set the thermostats up or down between guests.

Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

Chris Hynes
Aug 14, 2017 10:50 AM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

I was looking for iCal import on their site. I don't think they have it, but if they did it would be very cool -- you could do a setting where it was 78 degrees during events and 75 degrees the rest of the time. Zapier.com is another similar site, but it also doesn't look like they have anything triggering on iCal. They do have an event start trigger on Google Calendar, but not one on event end :-/

Oho... It looks like both IFTTT and Zapier have email triggering, for example: https://parser.zapier.com/. If you created triggers in OwnerRez to send out emails on day of arrival and day of departure, you might be able to tie your thermostat=78 to arrival and thermostat=75 to departure. It might be a bit more complex to figure out the timing as we send out the daily triggers at 3am. You'd also have to consider the case where you get an arrival and departure email the same day.

We have considered adding Zapier/IFTTT connection to OwnerRez which would make all of this simple, and I'm sure we'll get to that at some point. Right now, we're knee deep in 3 other things -- payments overhaul, walled garden site handling (including listing site criteria on renter agreements, separate checkout, etc), and channel integration for airbnb, booking.com etc. Once we've got all _those_ out of the way... :-D

Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

Sam Westcott
Aug 14, 2017 10:23 AM
OR Team Member Member for 16 years 238 posts

@BlueMtnCabins: It would probably have to go the other way. The booking software (like OwnerRez) would have to push events to the devices (thermostats). The thermostat companies probably have APIs or bridge software where we could web-hook events to them. So OwnerRez would basically tell the thermostat "go to 78 degrees" around the time the guest checks out. There are a couple different patterns.

Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 14, 2017 10:10 AM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

https://ifttt.com/honeywell_total_connect_comfort has some applets(?) for Honeywell Total connect Comfort (which is what i have) but I do not see one that allows to use reservations calendar and follow something like this:

if checkout day, at 10AM ET and system = cool, set temp = 78F
If checkin day, at 2:30PM and system = cool, set temp = 75F


Anyone know of any calendar/thermostat integrations available? 25 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 14, 2017 9:30 AM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

Does anyone know if there is any application that integrates calendar and wifi thermostats. meaning if I have a 3 night gap and property is not occupied, I want to set temps higher (or lower) to save on utilities.
I have 2 (soon will be 4) Honewell 9000 series wifi thermostats and also Bryant Evolution Connex (2 thermostats) also wifi.
I imagine such app would use my existing log in to those respective apps or portals and change settings based on occupancy. Anyone aware of such app?

FlipKey inquiries don't have arrival and departure dates nor # of guests 3 replies

Randy Juneau
Aug 13, 2017 1:45 PM
Member for 13 years 38 posts

Thanks Chris. That fixed it! Take the rest of Sunday off!

FlipKey inquiries don't have arrival and departure dates nor # of guests 3 replies

Chris Hynes
Aug 13, 2017 12:42 PM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

Looks like FK changed their inquiry email format slightly, but just enough to throw off our parser.

We've now released a hotfix that addresses the issue.

Can you send through another test inquiry?

FlipKey inquiries don't have arrival and departure dates nor # of guests 3 replies

Chris Hynes
Aug 13, 2017 12:27 PM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

I see the test inquiries in your account and we're looking into the issue.

FlipKey inquiries don't have arrival and departure dates nor # of guests 3 replies

Randy Juneau
Aug 13, 2017 12:15 PM
Member for 13 years 38 posts

I saw previous post about # of guest, but there is also an issue that arrival and departure dates are showing missing on the OR inquiry. I tested it a few times and both inquiries (on different properties) are showing on the OR Inquiry missing arrival and departure dates:

This inquiry is MISSING INFO.
This means that there is missing or malformed information such that a quote is not possible. Specifically:

The arrival date has not been specified.
The departure date has not been specified.

Tripadvisor inquires getting number of people incorrect 3 replies

Chris Hynes
Aug 6, 2017 12:53 PM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

Yep, they both use the same format.

The hotfix for this is now released.

Tripadvisor inquires getting number of people incorrect 3 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 6, 2017 10:59 AM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

Actually one was TA one was FK with same issue but tgey probably use same setup

Tripadvisor inquires getting number of people incorrect 3 replies

Chris Hynes
Aug 6, 2017 10:09 AM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

Thanks for the heads up! Looks like TA finally added adults/children into the email instead of just the guests which they had before.

We'll get our parser updated to handle the new format and a hotfix out shortly.

Tripadvisor inquires getting number of people incorrect 3 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 6, 2017 9:37 AM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

Noticed my last 2 TA inquiries:
1. was 8 adults and 4 children on TA - showed up as 8 adults and 8 children on OR; created rule violation
2. was 6 adults and 4 children on TA, showed on OR as 6 adults and 6 children, created rule violation

cannot email quote getting error 1 reply

Chris Hynes
Aug 6, 2017 12:10 AM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

We had an error in the deployment earlier. This is now fixed.

cannot email quote getting error 1 reply

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 5, 2017 11:15 PM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

Tripadvisor inquiry, created quote, cannot email. getting
What just happened?

Whatever you just did caused an error. We immediately logged the error and sent emails to the right people.
What do I do now?

Try whatever you were doing one more time. If the error still occurs, please contact us and tell us what happened. Or, even better, use the Feedback menu at the top right of the page to send a suggestion.

How did you find us? optional question/field 5 replies

Chris Hynes
Aug 5, 2017 10:09 PM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

This is a good one. I know several people put text on their site asking them to enter that in the comments, but that's sort of brittle. We could put a free text field for that on the widget, but there are already a ton of fields there.

Best idea would be to use a custom field to capture that on checkout: https://www.ownerrez.com/support/articles/capture-additional-fields-on-checkout-quote-acceptance

How did you find us? optional question/field 5 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 4, 2017 2:05 PM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

Other than knowing which website the given traveler has inquired from or booked, is there a way to add optional question/field to inquiry/quote widget and /or check out form so that owner may know where/how the guest found owners' website? I advertise on craigslist, visitmysmokies etc, have presence on google etc. So when those people finally get to website, I do not know where they found it 9 they could have seen my ad on CL, or saw it on Google, or Visitmysmokies). would be good if I know what site has driven the inquiry. Or is there any other way to know this?

Stats 3 replies

Chris Hynes
Aug 4, 2017 12:58 PM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

I looked into this and I don't see any support in GA for passing custom values you can see in real time. The only thing you can set is the event label. You can pass custom values for a visitor that are visible on the non-realtime reports, but even that support is limited.

We'll keep this in mind for a future enhancement if GA adds support we can use to show additional values in the real time dashboard. Or maybe we need to build our own real time dashboard ;-)

security deposit release time 6 replies

Jacques L
Aug 4, 2017 7:02 AM
Member for 11 years 51 posts

In both cases I was asked, it was for a debit card, and about 24 hours after they got the 'release email' that they inquired as to why the funds were still on hold.

This is good information to have if it comes up again.

Thanks,
-JJ

Security deposit for 3rd party bookings 8 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 3, 2017 12:54 PM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

Got it thank you so much!

Security deposit for 3rd party bookings 8 replies

Chris Hynes
Aug 3, 2017 12:22 PM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

Make the change on the booking Rules, not the property Rules. You'll have to do that for each VRBO booking as it comes in, but that way it'll apply to only that booking, not the rest of the direct bookings etc.

Security deposit for 3rd party bookings 8 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 3, 2017 12:02 PM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

<<Set it to "automatically reserve a security deposit" even though it won't actually be automatic in this case, and fill out the details. Leave "Security Deposit Reminder" set to "do not send an email reminder" because you'll be sending your own 3 days before arrival.>>
If I do that, would it not apply to my direct OR bookings going forward? i do not have sec dep enabled on those because I collect (and then refund) sec dep as non-taxable surcharge. if I enable it, would it not result in having a "double" deposit - one as a "surcharge" and another as CC hold? Thanks

Security deposit for 3rd party bookings 8 replies

Chris Hynes
Aug 3, 2017 11:47 AM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

Yep, it's never good to have a third party in charge of the damage deposit. I've seen people doing exactly what you describe with stating the secdep in the house rules and it works well.

Sending the link should work as long as you go into the booking Rules and enable the secdep there. That's probably what's tripping it up right now -- you have the secdep off for the property, so the booking Rules default to that. But you can change that on a booking by booking basis.

Set it to "automatically reserve a security deposit" even though it won't actually be automatic in this case, and fill out the details. Leave "Security Deposit Reminder" set to "do not send an email reminder" because you'll be sending your own 3 days before arrival.

Once you do that, the security deposit link will be enabled for the booking and you can send it to the guest.

security deposit release time 6 replies

Chris Hynes
Aug 3, 2017 11:13 AM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

Did the security deposit release go through successfully as normal?

Usually it is the same day you release the security deposit, but the actual removal of the hold is up to the originating bank that issue the guest credit card. We've found that banks tend to be worse about releasing holds on debit cards, unfortunately.

Some times if the guest contacts their bank they'll be able to speed up the release process by noticing you've released on your end and dropping it off the account manually.

Security deposit for 3rd party bookings 8 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Aug 3, 2017 11:04 AM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

VRBO/Ha started to hold security deposits (i.e they charge the renter sec dep but they do not deposit it into owner's account). I do not like that arrangement at all. I like to be in control of deposit instead of (potentially) having to prove damages to HA in order to collect from deposit.
So I was entertaining the following idea.
1. set up VRBO with "security deposit not required".
2. Disclose in VRBO listing that sec dep will be required by a cc and will be collected 3 days prior to arrival.
3. VRBO booking is imported to OR
4. be able to send the sec dep link to the renter 3 days prior to arrival and have them submit their CC info for the sec dep amount. I don' want to have to handle their CC myself

I have done some testing and it seems I am unable to set up a link for sec deposit UNLESS I enter guest's card number. But i want to have THEM enter the card number when they receive a link.

P.S. I do not collect sec dep in a form of CC auth for my OR bookings - I have it as a nontaxable "surcharge" that I later refund. So i do not have sec dep enabled globally.

So is there anything i am doing wrong here? That is preventing me form being able to send them a link where they can enter their CC for sec dep hold?
TIA

security deposit release time 6 replies

Jacques L
Aug 1, 2017 4:46 PM
Member for 11 years 51 posts

How long does it usually take for the security deposit release to clear? I've had a couple people who paid with debit cards follow up about the deposit. I have SecureNet for the process.

thanks,
-JJ

Stats 3 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Jul 31, 2017 12:46 PM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

Chris Hynes said:

Huh, that's a great idea! Like you mentioned, we already trigger the events in GA.

Could add some custom vars in there for Arrival and Departure, would that work?

i do not know. What i meant that this stat would not be for quotes-turned-bookings (obviously on those we do know what dates ended up being booked because they got booked :-). But rather when you look in GA (even in real time) and you see users hitting "inquiry/book" widget, you see what location they are from, and what referrer/website they came from, but you do not see what dates they are querying.

Stats 3 replies

Chris Hynes
Jul 31, 2017 12:42 PM
OR Team Member Member for 13 years 1406 posts

Huh, that's a great idea! Like you mentioned, we already trigger the events in GA.

Could add some custom vars in there for Arrival and Departure, would that work?

Stats 3 replies

BlueMtnCabins
Jul 31, 2017 12:22 PM
Member for 9 years 1197 posts

is there any way to track in stats which dates users are queriying inquiry/book widgets for? We can already see in GA when user is using a booking/inquiry widget of which property. It's be great if we can also see what dates they plugged in. TIA.