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We strongly recommend having all guests e-sign our rental agreement, as that's the only legally valid and binding protection you have re the guest that doesn't involve Airbnb making all the decisions.
But if you decide not to use that protection, the system should still allow the guest to provide their email, and not make them sign the agreement. Do you have a specific example of a booking that didn't work that way? If so, please send that in to the Helpdesk to investigate.
Would be nice to have a OR native app. Especially for guest services. Many guests seem to forget about or not read emails. App could be downloaded by guest and provide the guest info such as:
lock code
check-in/out times
address
invoice
send comm to hosts
etc.
Log-in could be email or booking number and check-in date or booking phone number
Add items if you think this would be helpful.
The feature is already a money maker, but can also take more time than needed. Would be great to configure a discount for these nights, like 20%, and have more of the work done for us automatically.
Send to guest with click link to accept our offer, then a process to authorize change of dates and auto-price.
Wishful thinking, but it can be done.
- Chuck
Any plans to develop a native app? At least for guest interaction such as the Hospitality by escapia - Guest Hospitality App for Vacation Property Managers| Escapia
This is a feature that we also need for our business. Are there any plans on the roadmap to build in this functionality?
Just found this as you were answering on this Sunday morning! That shows how infrequently we have to do this!
Thanks!
Mike - you can go into this guest's booking and click the "email to guest" button and then select whichever template you wanted to send. I do this all the time for guests who can't find my email with the request to sign rental agreement.
Emails get lost for many reasons, most commonly it's that the guest simply can't find it. They might have forgotten that they used a work email so they are looking in the wrong place, maybe they did accidentally delete it, maybe their email client groups emails together in a thread, could be any of many reasons.
Ken,
This problem has just reared it's ugly head for us. A Guest says they never received their booking with the signed renters agreement. Checking ORez shows it sent and opened, also our copy sent and opened. We NEVER delete anything from our rentals mailbox. Usually, when this happens, we just forward our copy to the guest. This instance, December 4, 22, we can find no trace of the email in our folder on our PC's or our email provider online folder or trash.
Any suggestion on how this is possible? A resend option on ORez would be very helpful right now! If fairness, this is the first time in 4+ years that we cant find our copy of a "lost" email.
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Just found the way to do it! But, a "resend" option on the email history page would be the intuitive way to solve this issue.
Regards,
Mike McDonald
Hi Wendy & Manel,
Thanks for taking the time to put this together. I appreciate the work in thinking this out, and telling other community members about it.
We fully plan to sync Deposits and Fees both (covering your first couple bullets). It's on the dev roadmap, just a matter of time to get to that moment. That will hopefully get us to a to-the-penny reconciliation on the QB side (ie. fully quote to cash).
The Airbnb Transactions API is done on our side but is in testing and will be a month or so before it's out live. That will eliminate the need to do Channel Bridge for Airbnb.
Thanks for helping the community here, and we'll try to nudge other requests over to here as they pop up.
PS. I like your idea of using custom fields OR to customize how the memo/description looks in QB. Interesting!
Hi Dory and everyone,
This is a one of the most important accounting issues we face. I have included this in the list mentioned below. I am trying to create urgency with addressing Quickbooks Integration / Accounting issues in OR by having all key stakeholders join together to create a louder voice. To do so I have tried to summarize all the open issues in this theme and have created one master feature request that I am asking everyone that would like to see this addressed cast a vote for so we concentrate our voting and allow OR to see the magnitude of the need. I do have some ideas for a rapid resolution but at this time want to focus on identifying and prioritizing the issues/problems and have OR engage in prioritizing this fix.
The comprehensive thread is that this Feature request (full link below). If you feel this is a need PLEASE VOTE. If you have any additions, corrections, or comments please reply and I will try to keep the top post updated.
https://www.ownerrez.com/forums/go/70573
Thank you for your support and lets get a roadmap for this once and for all!!
Manel
Hi everyone,
I have included this in the list mentioned below. I am trying to create urgency with addressing Quickbooks Integration / Accounting issues in OR by having all key stakeholders join together to create a louder voice. To do so I have tried to summarize all the open issues in this theme and have created one master feature request that I am asking everyone that would like to see this addressed cast a vote for so we concentrate our voting and allow OR to see the magnitude of the need. I do have some ideas for a rapid resolution but at this time want to focus on identifying and prioritizing the issues/problems and have OR engage in prioritizing this fix.
The comprehensive thread is that this Feature request (full link below). If you feel this is a need PLEASE VOTE. If you have any additions, corrections, or comments please reply and I will try to keep the top post updated.
https://www.ownerrez.com/forums/go/70573
Thank you for your support and lets get a roadmap for this once and for all!!
Manel
Dori and everyone else on the thread,
I have included this issue in a comprehensive list with which I am trying to create urgency with addressing Quickbooks Integration / Accounting issues in OR by having all key stakeholders join together to create a louder voice. To do so I have tried to summarize all the open issues in this theme and have created one master feature request that I am asking everyone that would like to see this addressed cast a vote for so we concentrate our voting and allow OR to see the magnitude of the need. I do have some ideas for a rapid resolution but at this time want to focus on identifying and prioritizing the issues/problems and have OR engage in prioritizing this fix.
The comprehensive thread is that this Feature request (full link below). If you feel this is a need PLEASE VOTE. If you have any additions, corrections, or comments please reply and I will try to keep the top post updated.
https://www.ownerrez.com/forums/go/70573
Thank you for your support and lets get a roadmap for this once and for all!!
Manel
Hi Dori,
I have read all of the Quickbooks related posts (I think) and want to thank you for all your involvement in the topic. I do think that your suggestion of handling taxes with the tax lines in QB online is not the best practices approach and I am happy to explain (on a call) what best practices are and why -- not to say you can't do it the way you are doing it but we all need to come together as a community and give unified feedback to OR. As a result,
I am trying to create urgency with addressing Quickbooks Integration / Accounting issues in OR by having all key stakeholders join together to create a louder voice. To do so I have tried to summarize all the open issues in this theme and have created one master feature request that I am asking everyone that would like to see this addressed cast a vote for so we concentrate our voting and allow OR to see the magnitude of the need. I do have some ideas for a rapid resolution but at this time want to focus on identifying and prioritizing the issues/problems and have OR engage in prioritizing this fix.
The comprehensive thread is that this Feature request (full link below). If you feel this is a need PLEASE VOTE. If you have any additions, corrections, or comments please reply and I will try to keep the top post updated.
https://www.ownerrez.com/forums/go/70573
Thank you for your support and lets get a roadmap for this once and for all!!
Manel
Hi everyone,
I am trying to create urgency with addressing Quickbooks Integration / Accounting issues in OR by having all key stakeholders join together to create a louder voice. To do so I have tried to summarize all the open issues in this theme and have created one master feature request that I am asking everyone that would like to see this addressed cast a vote for so we concentrate our voting and allow OR to see the magnitude of the need. I do have some ideas for a rapid resolution but at this time want to focus on identifying and prioritizing the issues/problems and have OR engage in prioritizing this fix.
The comprehensive thread is that this Feature request (full link below). If you feel this is a need PLEASE VOTE. If you have any additions, corrections, or comments please reply and I will try to keep the top post updated.
https://www.ownerrez.com/forums/go/70573
Thank you for your support and lets get a roadmap for this once and for all!!
Manel
Hi everyone,
I am trying to create urgency with addressing Quickbooks Integration / Accounting issues in OR by having all key stakeholders join together to create a louder voice. To do so I have tried to summarize all the open issues in this theme and have created one master feature request that I am asking everyone that would like to see this addressed cast a vote for so we concentrate our voting and allow OR to see the magnitude of the need. I do have some ideas for a rapid resolution but at this time want to focus on identifying and prioritizing the issues/problems and have OR engage in prioritizing this fix.
The comprehensive thread is that this Feature request (full link below). If you feel this is a need PLEASE VOTE. If you have any additions, corrections, or comments please reply and I will try to keep the top post updated.
https://www.ownerrez.com/forums/go/70573
Thank you for your support and lets get a roadmap for this once and for all!!
Manel
I would like OR to consolidate all accounting/Quickbooks related requests into this thread and work with key stakeholders to develop a roadmap. If OR doesn't do it I ask all user that have votes in other threads to please consolidate their votes here. We need to communicate to OR how important it is to improve the financial reporting. We need to hold a virtual meeting user forum with OR to understand their issues and communicate the users need coherently. I am an expert in the area and would be happy to facilitate and present different solutions.
The issues I think need to be addressed are listed below. I ask everyone to focus on the issue/problem rather than the solution so jointly we create a solution roadmap. If I am able to edit this post and other people reply with additional issues I will edit this and add to the list. I have tried to prioritize by pain point as I see it but this can be better prioritized in a discussion. I have also used numbers so we can refer to numbers in a discussion, if I add new points I will add them at the bottom (or as an additional sub-point) so not to change any references that are made in ensuing discussion. There they will no longer be prioritized
Please let me know any other issues that need to be addressed
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This is a request that should be made of Stessa. OR has an open API and this integration would benefit STESSAs business model. I would use this but I would much prefer a wholistic approach to a accounting solution. I have several suggestions and it would be great if OR would hold a virtual user’s forum to set a course for an accounting solution that aligns with ORs business model and allows users to continue to scale their business in OR.
I am a financial professional and could add a lot of input to this discussion and I am sure there are a lot of other users that could do the same. A solid accounting solution could really differentiate OR.
Further, there are several requests on this forum relating to accounting and or QuickBooks, and if they were all consolidated into one, I am sure this would be one of the highest vote getting issues. Can I request OR to consolidate these all into one, and as mentioned above, please create some sort of organized discussion with everybody involved.
I am going to open a new ticket, called Fix Accounting/Quickbooks - develop Roadmap , and ask that OR group all the accounting related issues and votes into this one issue and prioritize developing a roadmap
Ken,
Thanks for the quick response. Maybe I’m not understanding the current form correctly. On the current form, when the guests submit the contact details form, it takes them to the contact signature page. In cases where we don’t need the rental contract this is confusing for the guest. Also, the overall messaging on the page could be simplified just for contact information gathering. Does that make sense?
right now there’s several instances, many times after check-in, where we request to guests email for the database and we have to wait for them to reply on Airbnb and then we have to copy and paste it into the CRM.
ideally, we would like to create a workflow that when guests make a reservation through Airbnb, we send them a template message did ask them to submit their email for future communications in for the sharing of house, manual recommendations, etc. which will allow us to regularly capture more emails.
Thanks Manel
I would also like to see tags for items/surcharges that are added to a booking. For example if someone adds a hot tub or pool heat the booking would have the designated tag for those items added to the booking. This would then allow for triggered communications (emails and sms) based on the tag. IE I could send a message to the bookings that have a HOT TUB tag on the day of arrival a reminder about hot tub rules and information on how to unlock it.
We already do collect real email addresses from Airbnb guests using that form, so I'm not sure what the purpose here is.
Yes on VRBO native messaging -- which they say they are working on; I understand this is a high priority for lot of people, but it's not a deal-breaker for my business. For me, OR and hospitable (the old smartbnb) have been the twin pillars of my tech stack for years. No one software checks all the boxes for me.
As for an app, I may be in the minority, but I love the progressive web app because it has the exact same functionality as the desktop version. Notifications would be nice, though. But a stripped-down android app mainly for notifications might be more trouble than it's worth. I don't feel that strongly about notifications, but I get it that it's a big deal for others.
Not sure why it would have been erroring on actual bookings and not just blocks without that filter, but as soon as my next booking comes in... I'll let you know if the Zap works normally or not!
Aha! That makes sense, and explains why I couldn't identify that ID from anywhere. If that's true, than the error should go away with the filter on `is_block`.
Correct -- I'm currently on version 21 of the Zap (Lord have mercy!) and that's the one that's published and in use.
In case it helps you dig into it as well, the Zapier support reply did state this as to that number that appears to be a Guest ID in the error I receive:
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"I can explain the guest ID that you're seeing. Every step in a Zap has a unique ID number. So the number 181738969
is the step ID number of the trigger in your Zap:
When the trigger comes back empty, there's a placeholder value which is a combination of the step ID and the value it's looking for surrounded by curly brackets. In this case, it would look like
{{181738969__guest_id}}
. Step 2 of your Zap is taking the step ID and using it in place of the guest ID.
The root cause of this is the fact new data coming in from the OwnerRez trigger is not including the guest ID. I have created a bug report and have passed along this information to OwnerRez. Zapier works as quickly as possible to fix bugs once they are identified; however, due to the nature of bugs we are not able to provide an ETA for if and when a solution will be implemented. I have added your email address to the list of impacted users. Once a fix has been implemented, we will send you an email letting you know you can try to use this feature again."
That looks right. I wonder if they are automatically sending some other ID when there is no guest ID in the case of a block. If that is true, than the error should only occur on Blocked Off Time, so adding the filter will eliminate it.
I checked our logs for the past week, and I do see that your Zap is requesting that same non-existent Guest ID quite often. Can you make sure you have published the most recent version of your Zap just to make sure there are no changes left in Draft?
It's pulling the Guest ID field from Step 1 (Booking created in OwnerRez):
Sorry Alece, I hadn't seen your last screenshot.
That error message is indeed coming from OwnerRez, and it means that the Guest ID you are attempting to look up could not be found in OwnerRez. I did a quick check on that ID (181738969) and indeed there is no Guest in your account with that ID. I suspect that some other ID is getting sent to the Guest Lookup action. Can you post a screenshot of the Guest Lookup action in your Zap showing the arguments passed to it?
Perhaps the example the Zapier support staff sent was (mistakenly) a block rather than a booking, so I've gone ahead and added the filter as that's a huge help anyway. BUT the Zap does not work and gets hung up on the same error message I sent you in a previous comment here. Same error message on every new booking that comes in.
Hi Alece,
Yep. Zapier sent us that ticket and I responded to them.
What you are seeing is an Owner Block trigger. In our backend, Bookings and Owner Blocks are the same structure, so both can fire zap triggers (not to mention other things within OwnerRez). We are going to enhance the integration to include an option on the trigger for whether you want it to fire for blocks or no, but in the mean time, add a Zapier Filter action between your Trigger and your Guest Lookup. Tell it to continue only if "Is Block" is false: